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He is simply very lucky, I am happy for him.

First thats so cowardly to break up while texting. Secondly if he worries so much about getting gunnah being with you during ramazan what makes it okay to go out with you or talk to you afterwards. ITS STILL HARAAM! Both of you need to understand Islam!

I agree with Aru. What's haram during Ramadan should be haram all the time. If you can do things like Ramadan then you can also follow what you're religion says! I'm not Muslim myself but it dies iratate me when people don't do things because of Ramadan but go and do they after breaking their fast. Pretty pointless if you ask me.

Why couldn't you just wait until after Ramadan was over? Totally agree with Mr. Ahmed!

Aru i am guessing all your friends hate you too...

No khooni saleda. Actually quite the contrary I'm very popular Allah gave me much izzat alhamdullilah because I only speak the truth and secondly only Allah decides who gets loved or hated or izzat or not no human whatsoever will ever have this potential. Sorry if your not Muslim but having a boyfriend is against our religion :) if you can't handle this truth then sorry

Exactly thank you for saying it Aru! People really need to understand Islam.

yepp..islam is not just what you see or do.its all about beleiving and following it with clear mind.and clearly we are not allowed to have bf or gf before marrige.why??obviously it can lead us to bad stuff.google islam and find out peeps..this religion aint no JOOOKKKKKee..(any other too)

So courtship is haraam in Islaam? When does the Holy Qur'an even suggest that young men and women must be matched up, nolens volens, by elders or specialists ? If you mean that the Prophet in His own words prescribes chastity before marriage and fidelity with in it, then who can argue that? Name the Holy Dispensation which is any different on this point. On what grounds do you set Moslems aside from other believers on this point? On what grounds do you claim that boyfriends and girlfriends are doing anything haraam? Do you assume that 'boyfriend/girlfriend' is code for 'sexual partners who are not married to each other'? Do you assume that the young people mentioned in this post were exercising something more than their natural right to spend time together for the purpose of determining each other's character, and to consider each other as possible life-partners? If you assume this, your cynicism is most unfortunate. I speak some English, and have some familiarity with secular society, and I tell you plainly: I cannot not know from reading this post and merely seeing the expressions 'boyfriend' and 'break up' whether these youngsters had ever had a physical relationship. How do you think you know this? And who are you to point out the obvious and universally-known principles of chastity, and to scold anyone? sharam nahiiN aatii hai aap ko?

Fettslaab, we love you!

@ fettslaab your probably in a relationship thats why your for this. I from the knowledge I know from reading hadith and having my facts straight when there are two young people or any type of relationship like this the third present is the shaitaan. THIS IS A FACT! And where does it say the shaitaan always teaches us good things? Show me that? Yes huzoor pak did say that you cannot force neither girl or guy into marriage and you may also send your rishta to a girls house or vice versa but this kind of meeting up is haraam. THIS IS ALSO FACT! we can't even show our hair to gher Mard and your talking about texting and talking to them. I should be asking you apko sharam nahi ati teaching people wrong things. If you don't like the fact that our religion has this restriction then don't follow it but even teaching others you own way is haraam! I am familiar with many scholars and I know my facts. Rahee Ba'ath about whether these two are clean at heart well allah decides that. Even the worst to the worst in our eyes Can be the greatest to Allah!

Bibi Khadijah sent her rishtha to huzoor pak that isn't haraam... Did you ever read a Hadith that astagfiruallah they ever had these kind of relationships. Astagfiruallah!! They did it the way Allah wanted! We are on this planet to please our creator! If you are against this stuff than that's just your badkismaati that you couldn't follow these simple rules from alalh and huzoor pak. Everything has a guide book from computers to simple machines. We also have one. The Quran! Read it and understand it.

Our religion is the only religion that hasn't had a single change to it and we don't need change now!

well said Aru!!..im not muslim but hey that sounded pretty gud :)

Aru, we love you!!

@fettslab Last time I checked it said do no come NEAR zina in the Quran.

fettslaab, your pathetic comments made me think about comments made by boxers11 about you on story # 17124, I completely agree with him.Its your bad luck that you are terriebly pessimist, and contradicting to positveness is in your instinct.I look forward for a comment on this story from layla86.

Truly said, Mr. Aru, '...the deeds of saints are the sins of angels'. Since the ability of men and women to comprehend will always be imperfect, the progress of that power will always be relative. Likewise, the revelation of truth will always be relative to the human capacity to understand it. Nothing is decreed for any soul beyond what it can bear. In this wonderful new age, the spiritual power to seek out and assess the truth for oneself is within the grasp of even common people. So is the power of self-control. How much more so for sincere believers and the faithful to His Covenant! Is there 'zina' between two earnest friends who wish to know each other's character, and who are ever mindful of the principles of decent conduct, known since the dawn of time through the example of the most ancient prophets? Are boys and girls cattle to be bred by others who were bred as cattle themselves? Can you recite any surah in which the Creator has mandated this procedure as binding, the only acceptable way for legitimate couples to be formed? Have I somehow suggested premarital relations as an alternative? Would you rather that couples base their lives together on something other than sure knowledge and appreciation of each other's character? If so, tell me: on what?

There is no word for "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" in the Quran. But, women are told to stay modest, and men are told to lower their gaze, so it would be kind of difficult to have a boyfriend in those circumstances. There's also a hadith as Aru mentioned earlier that says when a man and a woman are alone together, the third person with them is the devil. I know you might think you can control yourself, but having a boyfriend could lead to hand holding, which could lead to hugging and kissing, etc. Trust me, promise rings can rarely overcome human desires. There's a saying, "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure." However, it is allowed if you wanted to get to know a boy for the purpose of eventually getting married. You could meet up in your parents house, or go out with him in the presence of other people. But the whole bf/gf thing is uncertain and dangerous.The Holy Quran only describe the basic life style of a muslim, rest you have to follow/refer to hadiths.Hadiths are examples set by the Probhet Muhammad (PBUH) for the entire lifestyle of a muslim.Then theer are 3 different parts, which are halal, haram, and maqru.Halal:Things, deeds, acts whihc are allowed for a muslim.Haram: Completely forbidde, and Maqru: topics whihc are not thought by the Prophet.

For more precise information please check this link: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545452

We love you Ahmed lolzzz well said brother. I do agree with whatever ahmed said because meeting at parents house or infront of some guardian is allowed. @fettslaab OP didn't say anything as to being very good friend with this guy she said BOYFRIEND! if you want to get to know your boyfriend do it in front of your parents. If they aren't doing anything bad then they shouldn't have a problem be iin front of there parents and meeting. Its not that they might not trust their children but we don't trust shaitaan. He made Adam and eve commit sin who the heck are we?! There was a hadith that huzoor pak gave, I don't remember it completely but the whole understanding was that if you do something and aren't afraid to do it infront of your parents then you aren't to feel guilty or ashamed of it(Allah maaf karain mujay becuz these aren't the exact words, it's in my bukhari sharif). If there is some sharam in the person he or she would never do something bad

Hate to butt in but Aru, you're comment about Islam never changing can not possibly be true! Islam is a religion that is millions of years old and through those years you're telling me no change has taken place? I highly doubt that. The Quran had been passed down for centuries. There is no way that it has not been changed the slightest all those years! And as time goes on, everything does change to suit it, even if it is slightly.

And before I'm attacked, millions of years is an exaggeration. I don't know exactly how old Islam is.

Lol actually no the Quran has not changed thats the beauty about Islam. I say this with confidence. I have the bukhari sharif right in front of me. It states more than 1400 years have passed and nobody has been able to change a single letter or produce the qurans imitation, as said in the Quran verse (surah Hijr v15:9) If you are Muslim please pick up the Quran with respect and read this. If you aren't then research before you comment about a religion you don't have much knowledge in.

Oh and fettslaab lolzzz but my name is arusa :) I'm a female so that's miss. Aru lol :)

1431 years 9 months & 27 days exactly.Nice name dukhan I mean Arusa & today is the 27th night of ramzan,In this night (27th of Ramadan), the Holy Quran was sent down from LOH-E-MEHFOOZ (the Preserved Tablet) to the earth.So i guess now you should go and do some ibadat. :))

I'm sorry to say but I disagree with you. You may believe that the Quran has not changed at all in all those years but that sounds impossible. Just because one is told that it has not changed, doesn't mean it's true. You seem to be typing as though Islam is the only unchanged religion. If that's the case, why do you think other religions have changed but yours stayed exactly the same? Whether it be by mistake or purpose, the Quran must have changed over this amount of time. It's only logical.

Islam and the quran are the only religion that haven't changed. Astagfiruallah may plah forgive you. You have a weak faith. Please get your facts straight... The quran has never changed ever. Look at a bukhari sharif. I hope your not a Muslim I you then thats just shame. This was all to LA. And to ahmed yes my name is dulhan lol :)

I'm not saying anything about your faith but the fact you think the Quran has not changed sounds unlikely. It's not just the Quran. Every holy book has had some sort of change throughout the years. It's only logical. God or his messengers are no longer on earth to say so otherwise. I don't want to go into a whole debate about religion because I frankly dk not believe in it. I only believe in God and leading a moral life. Why cloud your vision of God with loads of rules, regulations and rituals? I believe in God but MIT religion. Do you really believe God has such little belief in his beings that he would tell them to cover themselves? I doubt it. Faith in God and the willingness to be clean should overpower your desires. I know many who have lead a clean life but not find the need to be bound by rules. My point is, I don't believe the Quran or any other holy book has remained the same throughout the years. But of you think so otherwise, feel free.

*NOT religion

First off- having a friend that you love dearly and allowing that love to grow to that of love for a spouse is not haram so long as it is done in the proper channels with the correct intentions: for example, as mentioned above you have supervised visits and conversations. You ask permission of the parents of both parties. You also have the intent to enter in a marriage with them under the blessings of the One from Whom all Love Comes. You could call this person your intended, your best friend, or with the blessings of the family, your boyfriend/girlfriend. It's all a matter of hermynutics. Just be prepared that mainstream society may not understand your definition of boyfriend/girlfriend. So I advise a better title like Intended. We do not know to what degree the OP meant in regards to the title Boyfriend, so I refuse to judge because that in itself is sin, and two-she only has 300 words to tell her story, hardly any time for a fair assesment of the religiousity of their relationship. Second- Islam has changed over time, but not in the way that most would think. Scholars have struggled for centuries to correctly interpret the Word as accurately and effectively as possible. If there were only one way to interprete it, there would only be one school of thought that has been constant throughout the centuries. There would only be one sect instead of two. (Most scholars still consider Sufism a division within Sunni tradition, though there are a few who disagree.) Even to this day scholars are examining the Arabic of the Word to ensure that we are understanding the meanings correctly. The Arabic of The Final Prophet is not the Arabic spoken today. So there is a constant study to insure the message has not been confused. Maybe it is more fair to say that Islam has not changed, but Muslims have. After all, how many Muslim men of wealth have more than one wife? Why don't all Muslim women wear the same forms of veils/coverings? It is not our place to judge our brothers and sisters. If we feel they are in error, it is our duty to tell them in sincere love our concerns, but if they do not agree we are not to turn to ugliness or sin ourselves. Rather a true Muslim is to pray for them, lead by example, and trust the One from Whom your Faith Comes. It is not your hand that will fix it and it is not in your mind to fully understand what is not of this world. At the end of your days it is you who will stand accountable for you, they will be accountable for them.

Listen today is laylatul qadr which means I have WAY better things than to argue with you La. Like I said before the Quran hasn't change and I hope you aren't Muslim becuz you have weak faith if you are. I didn't read your post completely becuz I don't have time. It's my obligation to tell OP shes wrong and to tell you are wrong but I can't force a belief on anyone. Believe what you want your wrong in my eyes I'm going to my grave and you to yours. I just don't want to face Allah when he asks me on judgement why I didn't correct others when they wrong. To all muslims Laylatul qadr Mubarak! Pray for Pakistan and it's people :)

Sorry I did your comment but I didn't read laylas thoroughly. From what I read I agree to it because you particle said what's already been covered. No one is judging OP we are just saying it's wrong no matter what as you already stated. Now namaz time. Allah hum sub ko hidaith de. That's what we should all pray. Allah hafiz

I meant to say Layla practically said** not particle: and read la's comment completely.

It is not enough to say you are not judging the OP, and then start judging the fellow posters. That sort of behavior is inconsistant and shady. I am not the beat at this myself. I have made some comments here in haste or in a nonreceptive mood and have made miscommunications and put my foot in my mouth sometimes for it. I accept that responsibility. Just because we are behind the animomity of the Internet does not mean that we are anonomous to our morals or own religious creeds. We need to watch our tones and our wordings to ensure that our behaviors are moral and accountable. As basic humans we need to try and treat each other with the same respect and dignity online as we would face to face.

Layla you don't know me. When I say something I think 3 times before it. I'm not in a mood. I fight for what's right. I don't believe anyone was disrespected. We had a mature conversation about an important matter... But you have to admit when something is wrong it's wrong...

Aru, if I were speaking to just you, I would call you out by name. But I didn't. Rather I was speaking to EVERYONE in this thread. And if you feel no one has been disrespected, I strongly recommend that you reread how some of these replies and comments were phrased. We should all stand up for our beliefs, but we should do so in a way as to mirror our ethics and embody our words. That includes myself. Believe me. I don't know you. But you remind me of a lot of my students. Relax. I'm not picking on you.

Apologies! I take my words back. :(( btw Layla86, earliar I was missing your whooping vocabulary.

I don't mean to cause offence with my comments. I am just saying what I believe. My faith is not weak, I believe in God and will always do. But to me, religion can be misleading. The message of love and equality and prayer has been fogged in all religions by rituals and festivals. My point is, when God first taught of his worship and how to live, I don't think he would I've ever had this many conditions! For that reason, I believe personally that whatever holy book it may be, it has changed over time. Ones interpretation is also different so the rephrasing over time may also change the meaning of something. And there are also different types of Muslims. If there are disagreements about Islam within it's followers, the text is obviously open to interpretation proving that it HAS changed. Why is that some women chose to wear a veil but others do not? It doesn't make the one who prefers to not cover herself immoral. It's just showing two interpretations of one text. So Islam can have very easily changed or just been interpreted incorrectly and then gone on to be written incorrectly. Also, many of my Muslim friends do not even know Arabic and neither do their parents yet they claim they know exactly what the Quran means. Maybe if they tried to actually understand it, their interpretations of parts of the Quran might be different to their teachers. One last point is terrorism. There are Muslim extremists who believ the Quran states they must kill in the name of Islam to get into heaven! Obvioulsy, and I'm sure you'll agree with me here, their interpretation of the text has been incorrect. Howvevr, thy still pass thi message down to their kids and it will be passed through the whole family. Their interpretation of being a Muslim will be passed down through generations, creating a 'different muslim'. This is what I mean by Islam changing. And I don't want you to argue with me if you don't believ my points are valid. I may not be Muslim but i can still have opinions. It does not make you more superior to me so please do not phrase your comments patronisingly Aru. I'm not forcing you to agree with me, just giving you something to consider so please do try and read my comment but only if you think it's 'worthy' enough. Don't only read the ones that agree with you Arub do sometimes try and see another side whether you agree or disagree.

you can take your iBODat, and SOD it

Oh yah Islam has forbidden relationship between boys and girls at this age unless they're married at ANYTIME

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