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Today, the man I love with all my heart broke up with me because he refuses to marry someone who isn't a Muslim. He drinks and doesn't pray. TMDL

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Aww i feel sorry for you but no one knows about the drinking whereas if he brings u home evryone will know. besides u should know to marry a muslim, you have to be muslim :D X

#1 - Jun 2, 2010 10:41 AM by #'Mehakkk;;;
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"besides u should know to marry a muslim, you have to be muslim :D X" - That's like saying if you're Hindu or Sikh you have to marry a Hindu or Sikh respectively. I am not Muslim myself, but I know this is not true as do most people LOL, what era do you live in?

#2 - Jun 3, 2010 03:15 AM by dilj
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it also happended to me the girl i loved is a catholic her paretns would not allow her to marry me as i am a Muslim

#3 - Jun 3, 2010 07:34 AM by
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no i don't mean that, soz if you took it the wrong way, i meant thats what the religion says, that you should marry a muslim and i meant 'lost heart' should've known what she was getting herself into. but khair its not her fault - dil kau kaun samjhaye lol ;) hope that clears it. me isi era ki hoon

#4 - Jun 3, 2010 09:40 AM by #'Mehakkk;;;
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it doesnt even have to be an era problem.. thats what the religion says.. and really you ask ur self do u love ur religion more or some girl? @chowdhury

#5 - Jun 4, 2010 04:01 AM by
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The teachings of Muhammed, the Messenger of God, are not the cause of this distressing situation. The Prophet came to break down the ancient barriers of racial hatred and tribal exclusivity that had been perpetuated by the Forty Tribes of Arabia through just the sort of nonsense that Miss LostHeart is now enduring. Where does anyone see the movement of the Holy Spirit in such stories as this one? Where has the Qur'an forbidden intermarriage? Where has the Qur'an condemned other religions and their followers? Rather, the Word of God has commanded the faithful to protect 'The Sabeans, the Jews, the Christians, and all those who believe in the Last Day'. It is idolators He has tirelessly fought, and it is fellowship with them that He has censured. Hindus and Moslems serve the same Divine Reality. Likening the sincere Hindu to the depraved worshippers of sticks and stones is willful ignorance. Refusing intermarriage is a throw-back to the days when men huddled in their caves in fear of wild animals -and other tribes. It is especially loathesome that this ancient and perverse custom should re-emerge in the very community which was based on the compassionate and ecumenical teachings of the Qur'an! ...Poor Miss Lost Heart, whatever 'Islam' it is that her special friend practises, it is the 'Islam' of beastly selfish custom and tribal chauvinism, essentially unrelated to the teachings of the Messenger of God, and plainly in conflict with His commands. Islam teaches the Oneness of God, and offers principles by which the oneness of humankind may be made to follow from this pure fact. This is the purpose of every religion of God: to transform the character of the seeker, and to promote fraternity and cooperation. Any Moslem who has missed this point has failed to read the Qur'an for himself and to approach its words with his own heart. He has not troubled to seek guidance from the Divine Educator, and has lazily followed empty tribal habits. To reject intermarriage with a 'non-club member' is to pretend that Moslems were not created from the same dust as anyone else. It is hateful, it is racist, it is all the opposite of the Messenger's Own life example.

#6 - Jun 4, 2010 07:04 PM by fettslaab
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I'm interested to know how long this couple has been together. I feel for the poor girl. And it's not fair to say she should know better. Muslims are forbidden to drink and even a pillar of their faith is to pray. So to what degree is this man "Muslim" especially if he is willing to be in a romantic, commited relationship with a non-Muslim. If you are a Muslim who feels you shouldn't marry a non-Muslim, then why would you play with people's emotions by entering in a relationship with them if you cannot fulfill the commitments with them? It is very disrespectful, confusing, and unfair.

#7 - Jun 4, 2010 07:32 PM by Layla86
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Erm fettslabb sorry to rain on your parade but i think you've got it wrong. i agree with Layla86 that its the guys fault, he should no in the first place, but thats guys for u haina. The messenger of ALLAH said "women are married for four reasons: for wealth, for family nobility, for beauty and for deen (faith); you should marry for deen, otherwise may your hands be rubbed in dirt" also following this a marriage of two tottaly different faiths wont work out anyway because of so many differences. its only allowed in certain circumstances in a muslim dominant country where there is over population of other religion women. anyway i dnt wna blabber on but as far as what the quran says here it is : â

#8 - Jun 6, 2010 09:47 AM by #'Mehakkk;;;
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sorry it won't let me post my thing but go on google and type in what does islam say about marrying a non muslim you'll get the answer

#9 - Jun 6, 2010 09:48 AM by #'Mehakkk;;;
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u cant marry a non Muslim but the again the guy is just a Muslim by name not action..

#10 - Jun 7, 2010 02:23 PM by
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Thank-you, Miss Mehboub, I have read the links carefully and paid particular attention to the Quranic quotes offered in support of the view restricting marriage for Muslims to other Muslims. I see lots of local cultures, and precious little of the Quran in the various 'fatwas' and expostulations. If anything, the actual Quranic quotes are more instances in which the Prophet denounces idolaters. It is with these declared enemies of all Faiths that proceed from the One Creator that Muslims are forbidden to consort in marriage. The disdain with which Islamic jurisprudence refers to non-Muslim believers (please note this term!) shall return unto its authors. ...I sincerely regret the ugliness and distress that Lost Heart has been caused to endure by this young man. As others have observed, he seems to have used Lost Heart for a certain time, and then discarded her over a strictly *cultural* imperative.

#11 - Jun 8, 2010 06:28 PM by fettslaab
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Chill maro guyz ... @ mehak tum bilkul theek keh rai ho...but u can marry a non muslim as long they are "people from the book" i.e Christians Jews ...but they have/preferred to convert after. Muslims cannot marry Hindus. posyt on a lighter note ..i liked ur post on praying and on the movie piracy now im gonna order a fresh stock of pirated movies from Pakistan LOL

#12 - Jun 16, 2010 10:22 PM by
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'Muslims cannot marry Hindus...' The Qur'an does not allow the faithful to consort with idolaters, idolaters! Where does it it forbid fellowship and marriage with Hindus? Are Hindus really idolaters? Who can read the Bhagavad-Gita and fail to hear the voice of the One Holy Spirit in the words of Lord Krishn? This is the same Holy Spirit that visited all the Prophets and Manifestations of the Adamic line. If some Hindu practice has sunken into idolatry, well, so has that of the People of the Book. When will things get any better in this world, as long as people cling to their tribal prejudices? Do you youngsters really accept all of those imaginary distinctions uncritically? 'Chill maaro,' indeed.

#13 - Jun 17, 2010 04:31 AM by fettslaab
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i'm sorry......... it's good that u found out that he's stupid and mean be4 u married him................ he's not worth it............ find someone else....... move on.... i know u love him to death, but in the end, he doesn't care..... goodluck

#14 - Jun 18, 2010 02:38 AM by
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erm fettslaab im not meaning to offend anybody but hindus are idolators. idolators are when u worship to statues and thats wht u do rite? that what i see in the dramas anyway lol. at the end of the day its your belief and im not saying its wrong but hindus are not people from the kitaab hence if a hindu really loves a muslim they should convert to islam - obviously nt just to marry the person otherwise the marriage wont work bt they should believe it first. even if a hindu converts to islam but never belives hez not really a muslim. anyway im not here to judge bcuz im not perfect myself and even though im a muslim i make major mistakes show i hope god forgives me ? muslims are not idol worshippers we don't make any pictures/statues of our god or prophets. and its not prejudice its the truth so yeh chillax x

#15 - Jun 19, 2010 09:57 AM by #'Mehakkk;;;
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Ms. M., there are an awful lot of people in the world who are not of The Book. That makes all kinds of people Muslims will never build family ties with, if the majority really follows the dismally ethnocentric line to be found in most discussionsof the topic. How very opposed this is to the manifest spirit of the Qur'an! The teachings as you read them can only entrench an us-and-them mentality that is not present in the Qur'an. The idolators with whom the Manifestation of God strove all His life worshiped sticks and stones instead of the One Creator. Lord Krishn clearly spoke for the One true God, in words that could have flowed from the lips of Jesus or Muhammed or the Buddha. With the passage of time, when the essential spirit of the revelation is forgotten, the devotees resort more and more to empty external practices -some quite upsetting, such as the veneration of images and the like. Aren't Catholics Christians, and therefore People of the Book, whom Muhammed designated for special reverence and protection? Yet the Catholics have long since incorporated elaborate ritual and the veneration of images into their practice. Likewise the Hindus have absorbed a vast store of local mythologies and irrelevant material into their practices. Nevertheless, if you choose to take the risk and go speak to sincere Christians and Hindus who think about the words of the Manifestation, and who turn to the power that was in these teachings before they got muddied and covered up over time, then I think you might take back your claim that they are idolators, unfit for your table, never mind your wedding-hall. Ouassalaam !

#16 - Jun 20, 2010 03:39 AM by fettslaab
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Idolators. Is that how you so shallowly classify us Mehak? Now its my turn to be offended. ;) No, I don't get offended in lack of knowlege. By saying how you did, Mehak, you think there is no belief behind those 'idols' at the end of the day. Well, how you respect your holy book as a REMINDEr of your belief, we use our idols. They, along with physical books, are the representation of our beliefs. For waht is a belief? It is a way of life that one lives! And to make a physical image of the belief is to make a more human connection. No one has seen god-but people have experienced him. Like my mom believes- true belief doesn't come from going to the temple, or showing your 'belief' by praying, althoush she does pray, it truly comes as a personal concept. And how small of a fraction you see us hindus! There are many - millions who are known as Arya samajis who believe in ceremony not idols. Millions of hindus who believe in gurus, to teach them a way of life to live not idols. What you talk of, is us- Sanatan Dharmi- who believe in Idols. Who believe in the same thign as those Arya Samajhis, same thing as those gurus..who worship the IDEA of a god, and the symbolization of god. Who believe in the science of Yoga, and the science of living described in our books. Who believe in a way of life that is more acecpted around the world today as more techonologies develop. Don't just shallowly cast us as idolators. There is more to us than worshiping an idol. We worship a belief of life and death, a human's purpose in life to live life out with Karm (good deeds) and dharm (trust in god/trust in those beliefs). That is what our gods have taught throughout history. They, like you prophets, have left us with valuable lessons that dictate how we live our life and our personality- to be the best human being we can be- like the Quran states. One difference that you pointed out..is tht Muslims don't belive in giving god a face..as a lot of hindus believe that human beings need representations of their beliefs, of those beings, who taught us those beliefs stemming back in history to an intraceable period.....

#17 - Jun 20, 2010 03:52 AM by Priyam
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Salvation is individual. Lets not argue. I am content and know my final destiny. I believe you all too. Why fight and make the journey more complex. Lets try to hold hands and walk in love....Agape Love!!

#18 - Jun 22, 2010 02:03 AM by champ4k_lal
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Hindu's who practice bhakti yoga (about 90% of Hindus) see thie physical representations as personified aspects of the One. The various "idols" as you call them are simply facuts on the Diamond that is Bhraman, which is very much like the all imcompassing that is Allah. Many family's have parents of different religions. In Goa just see how many are Catholic and Hindu families. The key thing is that religion is a very personal subject with personal interpretation. Don't worry about what everyone else says because they don't have to face the afterlife for you. For all us humans know the Norse had it right! In this case, the man was wrong to engage in a relationship with someone not of his religion, then leave because of that difference. Besides, anyone who converts for love of man, not love of God, has a harder time maintianing a dilligent sincerity. It can be done, but if you love someone truly, you would love them regardless of their faith and not ask them to change. You accept all of people, good and bad. Love should be unconditional.

#19 - Jun 22, 2010 07:10 PM by Layla86
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Baby, no man is worth that. YOURE FREE OF THAT ASSHOLE! :)

#20 - Jun 26, 2010 04:04 AM by NewDelhi
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@layla86's first comment: i agree, that through his actions that man is in no respects a "Muslim"- only by name, but not by faith. and where mehakkk points out, where the drinking and missed prayers can be hidden from the his family, but a marriage to a non-muslim can't - it IS stupid and it IS unfair...but also, it IS true. LostHeart, i know for you it may be very hard to get over him, but consider that someone who has spent their life time decieving others and are very confused themselves- would you really want to spend the rest of your life with them? and say if he did marry you regardless if you were a muslim or not - would you be entirely be happy knowing what greif your to get from your in-laws? sorry, but most men i've come across who are similar to him, don't have the decency to stick up for their wives or themselves in front of their precious mothers...and i don't see much success for you on that part. you got your answer LostHeart from him; let that be the final answer and walk away. there's no point walking into the same dead end.

#21 - Aug 23, 2010 08:28 AM by Lady_in_Orange
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